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Season 5: Blood & Water

Nature vs Narcissism

Was it Nature?  Nurture?  Or Plain 'Ol Narcissism?


About the hosts

Heather and Rachelle have been best friends since 2017.  They have been through so much together that you'd think they've been friends since the beginning of time.  Traveling together is something that they enjoy immensely and often refer to their shenanigans as #TheAdventuresOfHeather&Rachelle.

They attended the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival (Chicago) together in 2019.  

In 2020, they planned on branching out and attending the True Crime Podcast Festival in Kansas City, MO as well as CrimeCon 2020 in Orlando, FL.  However, as many of you know; both events were postponed/cancelled for now due to COVID-19.  As soon as we plan an outing/meet & greet; we will be sure to update you.  We are more concerned with your safety than anything else. 

2021 is FINALLY HERE!  But, we're not out of the woods yet!  We are still taking precautions and staying inside/staying alive.  COVID-19 is no joke and we want everyone to be safe & healthy.  As soon as it is safe and we are able to plan a meetup - we will share that with you!


   The Show

Welcome to Nature vs Narcissism Podcast!  We are a Cincinnati based true crime podcast with a dash of dark humor.  Throughout the episodes, we discuss crimes and the narcissists who commit them.


In Season 1, we went down the alphabet focusing on different serial killers, murderers, and other criminals based on their name.  For example, episode 1 focuses on serial killers whose names begin with the letter A.

In Season 2, we are going down the alphabet focusing on different serial killers and murderers who were from or committed most of their crimes in cities/towns with each respective letter of the alphabet.

In Season 3, we discussed all female killers!  This was our first themed season and we had a blast with it!


In Season 4, we discussed LAST MEALS.  Have you ever wondered what criminals choose as their last meal?  Have you ever wondered WHY they were on death row?  This season discusses those who were executed and what they chose as their last meal. 

Season 5 is in the works!  We will announce the theme as soon as we have recorded all of the episodes!  We really think you guys will enjoy this one!


Creators & Hosts



Executive Producer & Host




Production Manager

Contributing Artists

Pod Puppers

Always making noises and trying to get into the studio





Julie Manausa

Skull Logo Design/Slay Series Logo Design/Hallow Series Logo Design

Wicked Radical Art

  • @wicked.radcial

Bree Archer

Slay Series Logo Design


  • @whoop_does_commissions

Kimberly Ruark

Original NVN Logo

Wolf Pen Art

  • @wolpenart
  • @lenedoesnotpop

Emily Wallinga

Brainbowls Logo


  • @UnapologeticArtist
  • @Unapologetic_Artist

Nico Vettese

Theme Music

  • @WeTalkofDreams
  • @wetalkofdreams


Slinky Crimes Logo


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